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Post by petermoore on Sept 9, 2017 18:56:48 GMT
Ever since I started doing track days and probably since I first saw a racing car I've secretly aspired to do a season or more racing. When ever I've started a new project I've always looked at what series it could be eligible for and how much it would cost for me to line it up on a grid, so far nothing has ever come of it but one day maybe!
Does anyone else have the same desire and how close have you got to getting on the start finish line?
If anyone made the dream a reality was it everything you expected?
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Post by Jay TrackAddict on Sept 11, 2017 6:26:00 GMT
I would love to race and do a season in a one make series to see if I'm actually any good at driving.
With my own car I'm looking at entering a few Time Attack rounds but that's not really racing, its like hill climb on circuits. I want to do some door to door racing and I'm hoping that for 2019 I'l be in a position to do so.
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Post by eurorob on Sept 11, 2017 9:33:58 GMT
I have looked at several budget racing series over the past few years, the two main ones have been the MG trophy and PumaCup, both offer affordable racing and cars can be built for very reasonable money, both series you can have a new built car for £5k or build one yourself for a bit less, both have entry fees of around £300 and both have plenty of help and back up for racing itself, the puma cum does however offer a 2person driver package so costs can be split, the cars may not be lighting fast but are good fun driving vehicles and your out racing for not a whole lot of money, even if you only did s few rounds and track days in between it's still not a great deal to be spending
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Post by Jay TrackAddict on Sept 11, 2017 11:21:00 GMT
Puma Cup is a very reasonably priced series to get into. I think the class will grow in popularity over the coming years as people start to look for cost effective was to go racing.
It's a car I'd like to have a go in to compare to my own Puma.
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Post by eurorob on Sept 11, 2017 11:28:12 GMT
Put the feelers out mate, see if there's anyone on here with one?
The puma cup does offer great value for money because not only is it cheap but you can have two drivers to a car as I said before but they also have a 30minute qualifier and 45minute races so your getting more seat time than a lot of other series
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Post by petermoore on Sept 13, 2017 23:12:35 GMT
Put the feelers out mate, see if there's anyone on here with one? The puma cup does offer great value for money because not only is it cheap but you can have two drivers to a car as I said before but they also have a 30minute qualifier and 45minute races so your getting more seat time than a lot of other series Thats one thing that puts me off racing, only getting an hour or two on track for your £300+ entry fee. Does the thrill of racing make up for the lack of seat time? |
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Post by eurorob on Sept 14, 2017 9:11:09 GMT
Entry fee into the series is around £400 for the year then £300 per race, a track day at spa would cost in excess of £500 by the time you've traveled and stopped somewhere, I know a few guys who race and say they far prefer it to track days but I can't comment myself as it's something I've never done
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Post by eurorob on Sept 17, 2017 20:06:24 GMT
Just spotted an ad on eBay, a company offering a new built race ready Peugeot 206gti to enter into a series and the first years entry fees paid for ( basicly you just pay for fuel, tyres, repairs) for the grand sum of £3500
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Post by ribiero on Sept 20, 2017 11:45:10 GMT
Put the feelers out mate, see if there's anyone on here with one? The puma cup does offer great value for money because not only is it cheap but you can have two drivers to a car as I said before but they also have a 30minute qualifier and 45minute races so your getting more seat time than a lot of other series CSCC and MSV Trackday Trophy are good value for money, especially compared to 750mc single make series (contact ridden) the 750mc Roadsports is another 45m 1/2 driver series made in response. I dont know why the puma cup arnt put into the Tin Tops series, other puma's race there. Instead they're in modern classics or millennials (or something like that) and as a result they're off the back of a grid that contains a lot faster machinery. The only downside I see for 45m-2hr production car races is it puts a lot of stress on a vehicle, but those Puma's i've seen 2-3k with suitable prep, also some people like the bang and adrenaline of 2-3 15m sprint races a weekend. I was a guest for a mate who did a few funcup races a few years back, I worked out the you tracktime you get in just 1 funcup race exceeds running around in a compact cup getting wings knocked off for a season. petermoore the thril of competing at anything makes it worth it  |
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Post by smallspeed on Jan 28, 2019 10:45:29 GMT
I built my car around Kumho Class C regs so I had some guidance when assembling it. Since then the prices have gone up LOADS, and the regs have gone a bit mental and there's loads of sub classes, caveats, etc. I think if you want to build a race car the answer is to either buy one, or lash it together quickly and get out there vs building sometime over several years and doing a good job. If you do the latter, regs change and you're left either with a non competitive car, one that doesn't meet requirements, or one that you've invested too much time and effort in to smash-up I looked at doing the Ginetta GRDC in 2020, but to be honest the more I look into it and read about it, the less it looks like an actual "entry level" series. I appreciate its a bit more expensive than a lot of these race series, however the attraction was its an arrive and drive type series where you do your mechanic-ing and set-up. Added to that the wife likes the G40 and its a nice little road car, so works on multiple levels The reality appears to be that you really need to pay a race team and have them do set-up, support, etc, and that the parts are not particularly cheap and the cars have been designed to explode on contact!  The whole front end is one piece, as is the rear, so potential repair costs are quite high. My other issue is its supposed to be an amateur race series for people with zero experience, however to build up the grid numbers Ginetta are letting anyone join in now, provided they've no "race experience". There are people on the grid this year who are reigning European go-kart champions, people who have won their hillclimb classes for the last 20yrs, etc., etc. so its looking less and less desirable for a complete numpty like me. Caterham academy is the logical alternative, except I'd have little to no use for a Caterham outside of the race series (my wife feels like she's about to die every time she gets in one) I also considered some classic racing, but it seems so clicky! HRDC Academy (A30, A35, etc) looks great, but the allowable list of cars are expanding and regs changing, plus its basically invite only and I can't be arsed with people like that One series I really like the look of is the C1 endurance series - cheap to build a car (or buy one), quite high entry fees but a LOT of driving for the money. I think the down-side (for me) is you really need some friends - a pit crew seems like a must for endurance races, plus other drivers (24hr race with one driver is probably frowned upon! ) |
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Post by MariaGearm on Dec 31, 2019 21:35:39 GMT
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The whole front end is one piece, as is the rear, so potential repair costs are quite high. My other issue is its supposed to be an amateur race series for people with zero experience, however to build up the grid numbers Ginetta are letting anyone join in now, provided they've no "race experience". There are people on the grid this year who are reigning European go-kart champions, people who have won their hillclimb classes for the last 20yrs, etc., etc. so its looking less and less desirable for a complete numpty like me. Caterham academy is the logical alternative, except I'd have little to no use for a Caterham outside of the race series (my wife feels like she's about to die every time she gets in one)